It happens once in a while that there's a dramatic rout in the market and it plummets big time.  Today it happened again when the Dow took a dive to the tune of a whopping 254 points when the Fed once again issued an informal statement that a December rate was still a definite possibility.  Also adding to the day's sell off was the continuing slide in oil, this time suffering still another one-day 4% drop which has the commodity once again at a six year low.  This happens now and then, especially lately, and it will bounce back again at the next hint of good news.  Today's volume was in line with recent averages at 7.1 billion.

Markets | Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:47pm EST

Wall St. suffers biggest drop since September

BY NOEL RANDEWICH

DJ:  17,448.07  -254.15      NAS:  5,005.08  -61.94         S&P:  2,045.97  -29.03

REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

Wall Street suffered its worst session in over a month on Thursday as lower commodity prices weighed on energy and materials stocks and comments by a Federal Reserve policymaker hinted at an approaching interest-rate hike.

The rout hit all 10 major S&P sectors and pushed the Dow and S&P 500 below their 200-day moving averages, which some traders believe portends additional declines.

Investors are keeping a watchful eye on whether the Fed in December will raise rates for the first time in nearly a decade, as is widely expected after recent strong jobs data.

In a speech on Thursday, Fed Chair Janet Yellen did not comment on the economy or the timing of a rate hike.

But New York Fed President William Dudley said "it is quite possible that the conditions the Committee has established to begin to normalize monetary policy could soon be satisfied."

Following rapid gains in October, stock investors still concerned about China's economy and the effects of a U.S. rate hike have been taking money off the table, said Michael Matousek, head trader at U.S. Global Investors Inc in San Antonio, which manages about $1.3 billion.

"Those are the two things one everyone's minds," Matousek said. "That's why you have some of this selloff."

The S&P and Dow dipped the most in a day since Sept 28.

The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI fell 1.44 percent to end at 17,448.07, the S&P 500.SPX lost 1.4 percent to 2,045.97. The Nasdaq Composite .IXIC dropped 1.22 percent to 5,005.08.

Crude oil prices LCOc1 CLc1 hit 2-1/2-month lows while copper CMCU3 and other metal prices tumbled to multi-year lows, hurt by a strong dollar, weak Chinese data and concerns of oversupply. [O/R]

The energy sector .SPNY sank 2.4 percent. Chevron (CVX.N) and Exxon Mobil (XOM.N) both fell more than 2.5 percent.

The materials sector .SPLRCM lost 2 percent, hurt by a 1.3 percent fall in DuPont (DD.N) and a 2.5 percent drop in Dow Chemical (DOW.N).

Retailers were a bright spot after Kohl's (KSS.N) reported better-than-expected quarterly net sales, sending its shares up 6.1 percent.

But after the bell, Nordstrom (JWN.N) reported third-quarter results below its own expectations, blaming softer sales trends, and its shares slumped 16 percent in extended trade.

Cisco (CSCO.O) fell 4 percent in extended trade after it posted its fiscal first-quarter results.

During the regular trading session, PayPal's shares (PYPL.O) slid 2.1 percent after the Wall Street Journal reported Apple (AAPL.O) was in talks with U.S. banks to develop a rival payment service. Apple lost 0.3 percent to $115.72.

Declining issues outnumbered advancing ones on the NYSE by 2,521 to 557. On the Nasdaq, 2,177 issues fell and 629 advanced.

The S&P 500 index showed four new 52-week highs and 19 new lows, while the Nasdaq recorded 34 new highs and 142 new lows.

About 7.1 billion shares changed hands on U.S. exchanges, about the same as the daily average for the past 20 trading days, according to Thomson Reuters data.