As today’s experts have put it, the markets have been in a state of denial about future rate hikes and thus not fully grasped the possibility (some would say likelihood) of an upcoming serious recession. When there was a hint of the Fed scaling back, the markets went wild with a buying spree, which is what we saw Monday and Tuesday. And a little bit yesterday with a big rally after the huge morning drop, but not enough to put the indexes in the black. The Fed has been pretty consistent and quite clear with their intention of continued rate hikes and today the Chicago Fed prez reiterated it all. So the indexes went straight down and stayed that way. Tomorrow may see a glimmer of hope when the payroll numbers come in. And at least two experts see little or no danger ahead, especially Morningstar with the statement, “We are not forecasting a recession.”
There is a very good graphic on the history of recessions from 1948 until today. But the recession question? We’re already in recession. I don’t get the statement that the markets fall an average of 15% in a recession, suggesting it could go lower, and the S&P is now down 22%. It’s already gone lower. Where is the evidence it will go lower still? The good news is that the worst-case scenarios are now being priced in so, if there is no serious recession, the numbers will go way back up. If history is any indicator, Q3 earnings should help a lot. Volume was below average at just under 10.6 billion.
Thu October 6,
2022 4:36 PM
Wall Street closes lower as the Fed
pounds rate hike drum
By Herbert Lash
DJ: 30,273.87 -42.45 NAS: 11,148.64 -27.77 S&P: 3,783.28 -7.65 10/5
DJ: 29,926.94 -346.93 NAS: 11,073.31 -75.33 S&P: 3,744.52
-38.76 10/6
Oct 6 (Reuters) - Wall Street's major indexes closed
lower on Thursday as concerns mounted ahead of closely watched monthly nonfarm
payrolls numbers due on Friday that the Federal Reserve's aggressive interest
rate stance will lead to a recession. Markets
briefly took comfort from data that showed weekly jobless claims rose by the
most in four months last week, raising a glimmer of hope the Fed could ease the
implementation since March of the fastest and highest jump in rates in
decades. read more
The equity market has been slow to acknowledge a consistent
message from Fed officials that rates will go higher for longer until the pace
of inflation is clearly slowing. Chicago Fed President Charles Evans was the latest to spell out
the central bank's outlook on Thursday, saying policymakers expect to deliver 125 basis
points of rate hikes before year's end as inflation readings have been
disappointing. read more "The market has been slowly getting the Fed's message,"
said Jason Pride, chief investment officer for private wealth at Glenmede in
Philadelphia. "There's a likelihood
that the Fed with further rate hikes pushes the economy into a recession in
order to bring inflation down," Pride said. "We don't think the
markets have fully picked up on this."
Pride sees a mild
recession, but in the average recession there has been a 15% decline in earnings,
suggesting the market could fall further. The S&P 500 has declined 22% from its peak on
Jan. 3.
Average S&P decline in recession is 30%
Despite the day's
decline, the three major indexes were poised to post a weekly gain after the
sharp rally on Monday and Tuesday. The labor market remains tight even
as demand begins to cool amid higher rates. On Friday the nonfarm payrolls report on
employment in September will help investors gauge whether the Fed alters
its aggressive rate-hiking plans.
Money markets are
pricing in an almost 86%
chance of a fourth straight 75 basis-point rate hike when policymakers
meet on Nov. 1-2. To be clear, not everyone foresees a hard
landing. Dave Sekera, chief U.S. market strategist at Morningstar
Inc (MORN.O),
said growth will remain sluggish for the foreseeable future and likely will not
start to reaccelerate until the second half of 2023, but he does not see a sharp downturn. "We're not forecasting a recession," Sekera
said. "The markets are looking for clarity as to when they think economic
activity will reaccelerate and make that sustained rebound. "They're also looking for strong
evidence that inflation will begin to really trend down, moving back towards
the Fed's 2% target," he said.
Ten of the 11 major
S&P 500 sectors fell, led by a 3.3% decline in real estate (.SPLRCU). Other indices also
fell, including semiconductors (.SOX), small caps (.RUT) and Dow
transports (.DJT).
Growth shares (.IGX) fell
0.76%, while value (.IVX) dropped
1.18%. Energy (.SPNY) was the sole
gainer, rising 1.8%. Oil prices rose, holding at
three-week highs after the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries
plus its allies agreed to cut production targets by 2 million barrels
per day (bpd), the largest reduction since 2020. read more
The Dow Jones Industrial Average (.DJI) fell 346.93 points,
or 1.15%, to 29,926.94, the S&P 500 (.SPX) lost 38.76 points,
or 1.02%, to 3,744.52 and the Nasdaq Composite (.IXIC) dropped 75.33
points, or 0.68%, to 11,073.31.
Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) fell 1.1% as
Apollo Global Management Inc (APO.N) and Sixth Street
Partners, which had been looking to provide financing for Elon Musk's $44
billion Twitter deal, are no longer in talks with the billionaire. read more Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O) closed basically
flat after the launch of Google's new phones and its first smart watch.
Volume on U.S. exchanges was 10.57 billion shares, compared with the 11.67 billion average for the full
session over the past 20 trading days.
Declining issues
outnumbered advancing ones on the NYSE by a 2.32-to-1 ratio; on Nasdaq, a
1.42-to-1 ratio favored decliners. The
S&P 500 posted three new 52-week highs and 31 new lows; the Nasdaq
Composite recorded 46 new highs and 118 new lows.
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